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www.downlowconfessions.com » Blog » Articles » Church » Why people are against it?
 

Why people are against it?

I'm tired. I get lonely and lately I prefer to be alone. I grew up in a decent loving family who attended church as part of their living. Pastor 's preachings were always heard and paid attention of. Now, I'm older. Mom passed a few years ago. Pop's is very old and we, brother and sister, take turns to take care of. I continue on attending church.I work hard. I am a professinal single man. People respect me and I do respect people.

I'm tired. I'm lost in confussion. I have never been with a woman because I don't feel the attraction to be with one. I am not feminine. Lots of women want to get with me, obviously they seem to think I'm man enough to entertain their lustful desires. But there's omne powerful reason: I'm attracted to men. I always have been. I cannot changed that. I don't even think I want to change it. One thing I am sure of is that I didn't choose to be this way.

I'm tired, lonely, and lost and my church Pastor makes me feel more confused and lost every Sunday that passes by. It is well known, the Pastor is doing some women on the side, him being married I guess is a way to show other fellow pastors or church male members his the prototype of manhood. His preaching is about God, about sin and always make emphasis of homosexuality being this last the worst of all.

He says homosexuality is the worst of sins that I already feel damned. According to my pastor's words I have no salvation, even if we (gay people) stop doing sex with men or lesbian with women, we still are condemned. I know people take pastors as authority in matters of morality, sin and God's things, but why am I damned and will be condemned for something I didn't want to be, nor choose?

A friend of mine suggested to me to change church, but i have attended other churches, not lonly one, and the preaching was even more homophobic. Why do pastors and a lot people are really against homosexuality?

 
 
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wow,
God knows the heart trust that. Sometimes in life you have to look over people and their comments. If you are a firm believer in god stick with that not with that wack preacher. I will be praying for you brother.
2009-10-16 15:02:46
Sir,
I wouldn't take anything that an adulterer/pastor had to tell me. No sin is greater and if anything he will be judged harsh for attempting to spread the word and he is full of sin himself. He sounds like the type of pastor that you all are supporting and drive the 750Li and has chuch gooers light about to cut off or with hungry children. As long as u and GOD are good I would search for a new church home. That doesn't sound like the place for u.
2009-10-16 15:10:55
NUFF SAID,
I feel were you were trying to go with this post and sorry if people make you feel bad about being gay but that picture didn't help considering you are talking about the church.
2009-10-16 15:13:12
Guest,
First of all you are wrong for that picture. I am a straight female and that is definitely an imagine I don't want to think about!

But let me now get to the subject at hand. You need to do what you think is right and what you are comfortable with. I agree that too many people put an emphasis on homosexuality as sin but ignore other sexual sins like adultery and fornication.
2009-10-16 16:53:10
guest,
That is the main problem: people always think their pastors are the ones who know about sin and shit rules, they know about sin because they are sinners too, that is all. People always think Pastors are the ones who can rule life, even rule God to their own commdity and desires; Most times Pastors are worst than anyone else.
2009-10-16 17:09:03
LP,
Most pastors are on the dl and seem to be the first ones to cast stones. I say find a new church or stop going altogether and seek your relationship with god on your own terms. From my own personal experience the people that claim that they are so called christians has some of the worse characteristics I have ever encountered. I would depend upon an athiest before them.
2009-10-16 17:42:28
sonictron,
This is one of my main reasons for not going to church,too my bullshitting ass christians.If you gonna be right be all the way right.A good friend of my says that he is going to be a minister.I told him if he gets in the pulpit and start playing with the lord I was gonna call his ass out,no shit.
2009-10-16 19:42:25
What a World!!!,
There is this Pastor in my city. A few months ago I was checking the Megan-Law-website because I got children adn i wanted to check the child predators, and BINGO, his picture and he being on parole violation was there was there portrayed as a pedophile... But hey, if the people are ok with a pedophile why are they so mean at gay people? Some people think all gay are into minors and all pedophiles are gay, which is a totally wrong conception. Certain, there is a number of pedophiles who happened to be gay too, but there are lots of gay who are not into minors... I attended his service once Sunday to see whassup with this mofo and yep, he was talking about gay, prostitutes and druggies, and all the ladies and men in his church applauded him, and he is a COGIC pastor anyway
2009-10-16 19:59:03
Confessions of a Bystander,
The devil has a whole system of theology and philosophy, which will explain, to anyone who will listen, that created things are evil, that men and women are evil, that God created evil and that he directly wills that men should suffer evil. According to the devil, God rejoices in the suffering of men and, in fact, the whole universe is a full mystery because God has willed and planned it that way.
Indeed, says this system of theology, God the father took real pleasure in delivering His Son murderers, and God the Son came to earth because He wanted to be punished by the Father. Both of them together seek nothing more than to punish and persecute their faithful ones. As a matter of fact, in creating the world God had clearly in mind that human kind would inevitably sin and it was almost as if the world were created in order that human kind might sin, so that God would have an opportunity to manifest His justice.
2009-10-16 20:03:51
Confessions of a Bystander,
So, according to the devil, the first thing created was really hell –as if everything else were, in some sense, for the sake of hell. Therefore the devotional life of those who are faithful to this kind of theology consists above all in an obsession with evil. As if there were not already enough evils in the world, they multiply prohibitions and make new rules, binding everything with thorns, so that man may no escape evil and punishment. For they would have him bleed from morning to night, though even with so much blood there is no remission of sin! The Cross, then, is no longer a sign of mercy (for mercy has no place in such a theology), it is the sign that Law and Justice have utterly triumphed, as if Christ had said: “I came not to destroy the Law but to be destroyed by it.” For this, according to the devil, is the only way in which the Law could really and truly be “fulfilled.” Not love but punishment is the fulfillment of the Law. The Law must devour everything, even God.
2009-10-16 20:05:18
Confessions of a Bystander,
Such is theology of punishment, hatred and revenge. He who would live by such dogma must rejoice in punishment. He may, indeed, successfully evade punishment himself by “playing ball” with the Law and the Lawgiver/ But he must take good care that others do not avoid suffering and future punishment. The Law must triumph. There must be no mercy.
This is the chief mark of the theology of hell, for in hell there is everything but mercy. That is why God Himself is absent from hell. Mercy is the manifestation of His presence.
The theology of the devil is for those who, for one reason or another, whether because they are perfect, or because they have come to an arrangement with the Law, no longer need any mercy. With them (O grim joy!) God is “satisfied.” So too is the devil. It is quite an achievement, to please everybody!
2009-10-16 20:06:33
Confessions of a Bystander,
The people who listen to this sort of thing, and absorb it, and enjoy it, develop a notion of the spiritual life which is a kind of hypnosis of evil. The concepts of sin, suffering, damnation, punishment, the justice of God, retribution, the end of the world and so on, are things over which they smack their lips with unspeakable pleasure. Perhaps this is because they derive a deep, subconscious comfort from the thought that many other people will fall into the hell which they themselves are going to escape. And how do they know they themselves are to escape it? They cannot give any definite reason except for the fact that they feel certain sense of relief at the thought that all this punishment is prepared for practically everyone but ourselves.
2009-10-16 20:07:28
Confessions of a Bystander,
This feeling of complacency is what they refer to as “faith,” and it constitutes a kind of conviction that they are “saved.”
The devil makes many disciples by preaching against sin. He convinces them the great evil of sin, induces a crisis of guilt by which “God is satisfied,” and after that he lets them spend the rest of their lives meditating on the intense sinfulness and evident reprobation of other men.
The moral theology of the devil starts out with the principle: “Pleasure is sin.” The he goes on to work it the other way: “All sin is pleasure.”
After that he points out that pleasure is practically unavoidable and that we have a natural tendency to do things that please us, from which he reasons that all our natural tendencies are evil and that out nature is evil in itself. And he leads us to the conclusion that no one can possibly avoid sin, since pleasure is inescapable.
2009-10-16 20:08:46
Confessions of a Bystander,
After that, to make sure that no one will try to escape or avoid sin, he adds that what is unavoidable cannot be a sin. Then the whole concept of sin is thrown out the window as irrelevant, and people decide that there is nothing left except to live for pleasure, and in that way pleasures that are naturally good become evil by deordination and lives are thrown away in unhappiness and sin.
It sometimes happens that men, who preach most vehemently about evil and the punishment of evil, so that they seem to have practically nothing else on their minds except sin, are really unconscious haters of other men. They think the world does not appreciate them, and this is their way of getting even.
The devil is not afraid to preach the will of God provided he can preach it in his own way.
2009-10-16 20:10:05
Confessions of a Bystander,
The argument goes something like this: “God wills you to do what is right. But you have an interior attraction which tells you, by a nice warm glow of satisfaction, what is right. Therefore, if others try to interfere and make you do something that does not produce this comfortable sense of interior satisfaction, quote Scripture, and tell them that you ought to obey God rather than men, and then go ahead and do your own will, do the thing that gives you that nice, warm glow.”
The theology of the devil is really not a theology but magic. “Faith” in this theology is really not the acceptance of a God Who reveals Himself as mercy. It is a psychological, subjective “force” which applies a kind of violence to reality in order to change it according to one’s own whims. Faith is a kind of supereffective wishing: a mastery that comes from a special, mysteriously dynamic will power that is generated by “profound convictions.”
2009-10-16 20:11:07
Confessions of a Bystander,
By virtue of this wonderful energy one can exert a persuasive force even God Himself and bend His will to one’s own will. By this astounding new dynamic soul force of faith (which any quack can develop in you for an appropriate remuneration) you can turn God into a means to your own ends. We become civilized medicine men, and God becomes our servant. Though He is terrible in His own right, He respects our sorcery, He allows Himself to be tamed by it. He will appreciate our dynamism, and will reward it with success in everything we attempt. We will become popular because we have “faith.” We will be rich because we have “faith.” All our national enemies will come and lay down their arms at our feet because we have “faith.” Business will boom all over the world, and we will be able to make money out of everything under the sun because of the charmed life we lead. We have faith.

But there is a subtle dialectic in all of this, too.
2009-10-16 20:12:19
Confessions of a Bystander,
We hear that faith does everything. So we close our eyes and strain a bit, to generate some “soul force.” We believe. We believe.
Nothing happens.
We close our eyes again, and generate some more soul force. The devil likes us to generate soul force. He helps is to generate plenty of it. We are just gushing with soul force.
But nothing happens.
So we go on with this until we become disgusted with the whole business. We get tired of “generating soul force.” We got tired of this “faith” that does not do anything to change reality. It does not take away our anxieties, our conflicts; it leaves us a prey to uncertainty. It does not lift all responsibilities off our shoulders. Its magic is not so effective after all. It does not thoroughly convince us that God is satisfied with us, or even that we are satisfied with ourselves (though in this, it is true, some people’s faith is often quite effective).
2009-10-16 20:13:22
Confessions of a Bystander,
Having become disgusted with faith, and therefore with God, we are now ready for the Totalitarian Mass Movement that will pick us up on the rebound and make us happy with war, with the persecution of “inferior races” or of enemy classes, or generally speaking with actively punishing someone who is different from ourselves.
Another characteristic of the devil’s moral theology is the exaggeration of all distinctions between this and that, good and evil, right and wrong. These distinctions become irreducible divisions. No longer is there any sense that we might perhaps all be more or less at fault, and that we might be expected to take upon our own shoulders the wrongs of others by forgiveness, acceptance, patient and understanding and love, and thus help one another to find truth.
2009-10-16 20:14:12
Confessions of a Bystander,
On the contrary, in the devil’s theology, the important thing is to be absolutely right and to prove that everybody else is absolutely wrong. This does not exactly make for peace and unity among men, because it means that everyone wants to be absolutely right himself or herself or to attach himself/herself to another with absolutely right. And in order to prove rightness they have to punish and eliminate those who are wrong. Those who are wrong, in turn, convinced that they are right… etc.
Finally, as might be expected, the moral theology of the devil grants and altogether unusual amount of importance… the devil. Indeed one soon comes to find out that he is the very center of the whole system. That he is behind everything. That he is moving everybody in the world except ourselves. That he is out to get even with us. And that there is every chance of his doing so because, it now appears, his power is equal to that of God or even perhaps superior to it…
2009-10-16 20:15:11
Confessions of a Bystander,
In one word, the theology of the devil is purely and simply that the devil is god.
2009-10-16 20:16:04
Peaceful,
I firmly believe they are against it because they are afraid of doing it or they don't have enough balls to do it, even though they crave for it. That is my response to your answer
2009-10-16 20:26:37
I believe,
This post was written by the real deal & "confessions of a bystander" is his ass, too.
2009-10-17 19:09:50
Not even close,
^^^ Confessions of a Bystander makes it perfectly clear that many pastors who preach and teach hatred against anyone or anything are devils. The Real Deal refers to biblical principle as the foundation of his spiritual walk and states the interpretation of the bible is to be accepted as is and is not open to further discussion or to be challenged, ever. These two contributors are (for the most part) at completely opposite viewpoints. COAB questions doctrine and dogma often spewed by pastors, bishops, elders of the church, and the like; and RD accepts the biblically based religious teachings/sermons as fact.
2009-10-17 19:48:16
hmmmmmmmmm,
Listen, just the mere fact that the married pastor is having open affairs, or affairs with several women that the church knows about, is the first sign that not only is he a fake, but a liar and a hypocrite as well. He has no respect for himself his family the women involved and damn sure not the church members. Him doing that is a smack in the face to everyone because he is supposed to be held to a higher standard. Adulters are supposed to face the same punishment as gays if we are to believe his mess. Oh and those that eat shell fish etc etc.. Yes you should change churches. If the church is not preaching what you need to hear to make you feel good about yourself and those around you then it is time to move on. New church or none at all. Read the bible or seek refuge with a group that can understand your issues. But sticking around and listening to his nonsense, knowing he is a bigot is the worse of all. I wish you peace and happiness.
2009-10-17 20:24:24
Hetro Pic,
That's a female in that pic. You can see her breast from the side!
2009-10-17 23:52:52
Confessions of a bystander,
@ I believe..
Hey, there is nothing wrong in what you choose to believe or not. But I assure you one thing: I Am NOT The Real Deal, and I Don't Want to Be the Real, I do not have the same life story and view points as the Real Deal. Now, I am not syaing I am better than he is or that he is better than me; we are just two different people. Capisci? Good...
2009-10-18 20:35:25
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